In this clip from www.artistshousemusic.org – Miles Copeland discusses the elements of song structure and writing hooks.
Miles Axe Copeland III (born May 2, 1944) is an American entertainment executive, best known for founding I.R.S. Records. His brother, Stewart Copeland, was part of the pop-rock trio The Police, which Miles managed. Another brother, Ian Copeland, was a successful booking agent who described much of the New Wave adventures of Miles, Stewart and himself in his book, Wild Thing.
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One of Miles' acts, Squeeze, had a big hit with Up the Junction – no chorus.
Everything he says here is today totally moot, totally useless because people do not buy records anymore, there is no more music business. There is only streaming and even if you have a lot of streams you are going to make nothing in terms of money.
I'm against pretty much everything this guy is saying. But more power to him.
Pretty smart guy with a very successful track record. I really appreciate what he did to bring The Police to the world. Thanks, Miles.
hes right, sting lost his way in 2000
Mercury Falling is a better album than Brand New Day.
1:53 it was a what seller? Mercury falling im looking it up on wikipedia it went Gold and Platinum a bunch of times.. ?
Is this guy a nut this is exactly what is wrong with the music business shut up bitch
when a song is kind of getting old to you even though you like the hook what I do is I change the key and it sounds almost like a new song. I know people who have done that before but not as often as should because you'll get disinterested in the song as it stays in the same key it's like a refresher
Hey miles you are a crook and a thief remember me CHEB NASRO the Algerian singer you never paid for the album DEPARTURE shame on you . CHEB NASRO .
jesus fuck…listen to this guy talk like he's building a skyscraper or something
The way I see this…as only a consumer wanting good music, Miles has an ear for the the next hit. I get that the bottom line for record making….show me a top ten song. Well, that is all good, but what if he had been the manager for the Beach Boys album "Smile" in the mid 60's, would he have known how powerful the album was? I think Miles knows a hit song, or album, but you just have to take chances and allow the artist to explore.
I love every song he's ever written…NOT!!!
He knows what he's talking about. It doesn't mean that a song that follows the formula has to be boring or derivative. There are many ways to still stay within the formula and make a song interesting. Early Police's verses were reggae-ish, then rock choruses. That was new. The formula was there, but the melodies were hooky and musicianship superb. And they sold millions of records, which is basically his point.
Excellent advice… IM WAITING FOR MY PAY OFF… so simply, yet powerfully put!
it's all about building tension and then a big release a couple times, then a bridge, and back to the chorus, king of pain, spirits in the material world, and wrapped around your finger three examples and my biggest releases
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Led Zeppelin rarely followed that formula he talks of and they were the biggest band in the world.
What on earth is this guy talking about? His advice has nothing to do with music, it focuses on profiting from hit songs. Music is not about selling or desperately keeping people interested. Songs can be built in a million different ways. Following formulas doesn't guarantee a good song, neither does breaking them.
"Make sure it comes in like a garlic milkshake." Mother of God.